Taekkyun over Taekwondo?

First of all i am neither a Taekkyun or Taekwondo practicioner. I do San Soo kung fu.





Im just asking, how come that Taekkyun * the or one of the ancestors of taekwondo* has so much more technique than Taekwondo today?





If you look at Taekkyun vidoes on youtube and compare them with taekwondo you can see a big diffrence beetween the fighters.





So why dont the modenr doesnt keep this level of technique..it seems like the more the time went on..the more it became about just fancy kicks. According to what I see from the videos, there is also fancy kicks, but they also train in techniques, interceptions, takedowns etc. And the fighters are way smarter





Is it because that they train the traditional way? or something else?

Taekkyun over Taekwondo?
I've seen several Tae Kwon Do videos on Youtube too, and right now am watching a couple of Taekkyun videos. Very impressive stuff. (Now I wish there was a Taekkyun school in my area....) I can definitely see how it has influenced TKD; I recognize many of the striking techniques.





However, know that most of Youtube's TKD videos feature competitions, which mainly seems to go by point-sparring rules and/or Olympic-style TKD.


Nothing wrong with point-sparring, but I think that many TKD competitions have taken it to an extreme. It has become essentially a game of martial arts "tag," which I don't really like. And consequently, many other TKD schools train in that way because that's probably the mainstream.





Just to set the record straight, I have nothing against point-sparring... but I am not advocating continuous, hard-core full-contact sparring either. (that is another extreme to be just as wary of.) However, I believe that if the judges are going to award points for hitting/kicking someone, they should award points for GOOD hits, and not simply fancy technique. But that's apparently not what many judges do. Hopefully this will be changed after the TKD fad has passed and Olympic regulations lose their influence.





I don't know why the first TKD practictioners adopted only the striking techniques. And I will freely admit that this does limit TKD. However, many TKD instructors do try to incorporate Hapkido in their curriculum, which I think is a good idea.


I would also like to see more focus on the traditional aspects of Tae Kwon Do, such as the forms. ('Traditional' here is used a bit loosely, since TKD itself was founded about 60 years ago.)


I think the main problem, as detailed above, is the heavy influence of Olympic (sports) Tae Kwon Do, and TKD's immense popularity.





I can't tell you anything about Taekkyon, since I've never trained in it and heard about it just recently (from this question). But I think it may be more complex because it is more traditional, and less well-known (hence, harder to commercialize and bastardize).
Reply:I noticed that there is a lot less sparring nowadays then there was before mostly back then you got good at actuially doing it is more of a usiful body streanthaning danc juges wiil penalize you for not exacuting a move with grace even if you take the guy out.
Reply:Don't believe what you see on youtube. Tae Kyun is a far more primitive art than Tae Kwon Do. Tea Kyun training has value, but as a Martial Art, Tae Kwon Do is superior.
Reply:Considering Tae Kyun is one component of TKD.....





I looked at a couple of Tae Kyun videos...I found a full contact fighting video.....I could make out a bunch of judo type throws, and a couple Capoiera kicks.





I don't know about TK being primitive, it is the basis for most of Hwang Kee's Moo Duk Kwan kicking techniques.





In actuality, neither is better than the other. It's the skill of the fighters that makes the art look good or bad. An example, I'll use Bodler for this one. lol Bodler and I get into an actual street fight. San Soo vs. Moo Duk Kwan so to speak. Say I beat Bodler 2 out of 3 times in as many days. Does that mean MDK is better than San Soo? No, it just means for those three particular fights, I was better than him in two of them. Say we fight another 3 times a month from then, and he beats me 2 out of 3 times......again, he was on as a fighter and I was off...a reversal of before.





Anyway, enough of the example. lol





Tae Kyun is only a part of what makes up TKD and MDK. In fact, there is MDK in TKD as well. Has to do with a split years and years ago. If I am to believe what I've been told, the MDK I take was the one that split off.





I'm talking too long again. I just have one question, Bodler, what is your fascination with putting down Tae Kwon Do? In all the posts I've seen you make that involve TKD, you put it down in one way or another. What gives?