No perfect system!!!!?

Having been trained in jiu-jitsu boxing and karate/kung fu


I've used elements of all the above to win in real life situations including bouncing and using headbutting lol but feel there is still no perfect style ,only the personal skill of the individual.





My choice of styles to mix and learn if young again would be,


Boxing,jiu-jitsu,Aikido,Wing chun,Penjak Sliat and Kali.





Your Thoughts Please!!!!!

No perfect system!!!!?
i think you have answered your own question and having trained in all these systems i cannot but agree . again it is down to the participants own talents,determination,guts,persistence.g... luck and good fortune.
Reply:I believe there is no such thing as a perfect martial arts system. Most if not all martial arts have a set of rules that all practitioners must adhere to.





for example, in Muay Thai, there exists a set of moves and strikes that when executed, will cause fatal injuries to the target instantly. thats why it is only taught to the highest levels of Muay Thai practitioners, and even they are not allowed to use it under most circumstances.





also, each and every martial art has some kind of inherent weakness that can be exploited by anyone knowledgable in martial arts. its just a matter of adapting...





i like your intent to mix martial arts styles in order to close up any "weakness" gaps... i prefer a person versed in mixed martial arts rather than a master of a single style...
Reply:In this day and age, and with disturbing recent events in mind, it seems that no martial art is a good system. Guns are now British society's favourite weapon.





How do you defend against that?
Reply:Aw man, I would to start learning martial arts (I'm 23). I've definitely thought about karate, boxing and kung-fu.
Reply:Before this goes the wrong route. These arts are not about fights/defense etc. No doubt this may help under certain scenarios. You cant find geography in history, similarly, every art has its own characteristics. I strongly beleive these arts are not to trigger killer instincts but its more about self-control and to trigger +ve approaches in tough real-time scenarios. Remember, my mom said once, the fight to an ultimate win is to fight within yourself. A quote changed my life, so can an art.
Reply:Well i am far from any expert but my son and hubby go Thai boxing and boxing and the hubby does grappling as well as has also done kick boxing and was pretty good





I don't know but maybe each to their own????
Reply:if i could start martial arts and stuff all over again as a youngster...





i would def choose boxing as my main system and either ju jitsu japanese styles, akido, kin bushi ryu, zen do kai, judo, hap ki do





but i would only choose 2 systems boxing and 1 other
Reply:your right there is not right style each one has it strengths and weaknes's
Reply:You can train in a million styles but what will really matter is experience.
Reply:Thank you for being the first person with multiple art experience to acknowledge that there is no perfect system. Every system has their pros and flaws.





I have only been officially trained in wrestling, but have learned muay thai and kenpo from friends who have been doing it half their lives, and yes, mixing it up definetally is better then knowing only one art and even then theres always something you wouldnt think of doing until someone does it to you first.





If I could learn any five from real coaches and not in backyards, I would pick BJJ, muay thai (no need for western boxing if you know muay thai), wing chun, judo and capoeria. I said capoeria because I would use it to show off more then to actually fight, I wouldnt be jumping and flipping around in the air if I knew the other four.
Reply:Funny everybody says MMA no such thing Pankration from the greeks is the truest form of martial arts ever made it is what everybody calls MMA
Reply:True, no style is perfect. More correctly stated would be, the artist makes the style imperfect through his / her own actions or lack of actions.





I will be increasing my knowledge till I die.
Reply:I agree whole heartedly with your statement that there is no perfect system. Anyone who thinks there is, is basically delusional. However I do not train in Martial Arts to fight in the street. Martial Arts training for me is about fitness, self improvement and discipline. I have not been in a 'real' fight in over 20 years and god willing won't be for the next 20 years. You have a higher risk of dropping dead from a heart attack or a stroke than due to a violent confrontation (probably more than 100 times). So what we should be looking for in our chosen art is a way of keeping us alive longer by the overall improvements in our health and fitness that they offer.


People who seek out violence will find it.
Reply:I really don't buy all this strengths/weaknesses bull about fighting. These styles are not for video game characters after all. You're right, it is all about the fighter. Look at the UFC. They use a variety of different styles to do essentially the same thing. Furthermore, I would agree with you that a balance of styles is good, but don't like the strength/weakness arguement. I've found it is really much more simple; you need something for standup and something for ground work with something for the transitional stage as well. I do Muay Thai, Boxing, Brazillian Ju-Jitsu, Judo and Wrestling my self. In reallity I only ever train in bits and pieces of each that I need for my own development. The best fighters are those with the most mat time anyway as a rule, so the 'style' and all this 'secret move' stuff is often just impractical hype. Now if you are interested in the culture behind martial arts then that is quite different. But that's not what you asked about is it ;)