Monday, November 16, 2009

Expert and WISE Martial Artists help me out please. I need your advice?

Just lastnight i was threatened by 6 guys, all 6ft 2 and above. That they will come and beat the living daylights out of me.





All my life i have been in situations where there are many people against me alone. I really am so sick of it.





I am a peace loving person. But there are situations, where i need to fight. At one time, there was a gang of 20 teens beating up a 10 year old. I had to do something. I shouted at them stopped them (without a fight), however i was scared if they did end up attempting to hurt me.





I do weight training and am meduim built. Many consider that intimidating enough as an "image" for the opponent to give up.Thats fine. But i need to ask you experts out there. what kind of martial art do you reccomend i pick up on? What art teaches self defense against more than 1 opponent? Is there any out there?





I have done a bit of Kung Fu (only the first belt). But that was 5 years ago. I want to start again, but this time, serious and committed. Help me

Expert and WISE Martial Artists help me out please. I need your advice?
Reality time. If you can't beat up one person, you DEFINITELY can't beat up two.





As such, there is no legitimate unarmed way to take on many opponents, it will be a mess and you'll get hurt. The best plan I've heard of so far, is to take them out one at a time as quickly as possible, and starting with the ringleader.





However, you're not going to learn how to fight quickly, it takes time, so keep that in mind. Don't buy the snake oil, many people will tell you all about esoteric arts with funny names, but if they worked, you'd have seen video. The only way to get skill is to train and test.





That said, for purely standup fighting, Boxing, Kickboxing and Muay Thai seem to be the best bets, as they have been shown time and time again to work in real life and in the ring.
Reply:Most styles will teach you how to defend against multiple attackers... However I don't recommend it, it's not like in the movies... People seem to get into Krav Maga for that sort of thing.
Reply:While you can train to fight against more than one person, you're more than likely to lose. If you've been in scraps or seen stuff go down you know this. So, better to avoid and go on living your life with a little blow to your ego than winding up crippled or dead. In all truth, carrying a weapon is the best way to deal with multiple attackers, but of course that escalates the situation.
Reply:The best you can do for self defense is san soo kung fu..second is Jeet kune do or wing chun..I would say jujitsu but thats good only in one on one situations..because if your on the ground with somebody and the whole gangs comes at you while your fighting in the ground..your in trouble.
Reply:holy cow. I feel real bad for ya man. my advice is going to be far different from any body else.


in a group setting you need to separate them. so run, the one that gets to you first gits hit with a baton(one of the expendable ones you can carry in your pocket.). you can keep doing this until they get the point or a cop shows up. you never want to engage multiple people toe to toe, ever. This is a case I say use a weapon. and separate them. I love martial arts but in this situations you need more than fists feet and grappling. carry one of those batons(I can't think of the name of it right now) and aim a committed attack at the legs, arms or ribs, but you never want to over commit. Kung fu may be one of the best for this situations for weapons also so will jeet kune do because of its use of Kali, the philipeano stick fighting
Reply:To be completely honest, you should choose not to fight that would be my best answer, however to answer your question, I would go with Muay Thai, simply because you can take out oponents very fast and the blows are hard enough that they would either be affraid to continue or not get up. As far as multiple oponents go only in the movies would you see something like that work. If you are being attack my multiple oponents chances of winning are very slim to none, but if you can effectively knock the first guy out the rest of the oponents would mostly stop in their tracks, unless they have weapons, such as guns or knives.
Reply:I would suggest Ba-Gua as being the most effective for multiple foes, that is what it was designed for. It is also an art that you can use even when you are elderly, I will turn 50 this year and I can easily take on 4 people, my instructor can take on 7 or more, and not like in the movies where they come at you one at a time. It is designed to cause effective damage with each blow,every punch is also a block and every block is a punch,every step comes with a blow and every blow comes with a step. With more than one opponent you only have time to strike each person once or twice, and you must made sure that they dont get up to come back at you, Ba-Gua Zhang does that for you VERY well. Most of the kicks are below the waist or knees where they are most effective. There is no wasted time or movement. I have studied Judo, TKD since the 60s and have studied Ba-Gua since 2000 and have found it to be the most complete art that I have ever seen. Most energy will be spent in training not in fighting,in that in a fight if you break a sweat then you are doing something wrong. One year of Ba-Gua is equal to 2 years of Long Fist (Shaolin). EVERY move in Ba-Gua has more than one function there are no wasted movements or moves to impress someone. Every style can work for 1 to 3 people but Ba-Gua will allow you to defend against 2 to 3 times as many and use half the energy. It will be well worth finding an instructor in your area and watch a class or two, some Tai-Chi instructors know Ba-Gua. If there are no instructors in your area then for more than one foe I would suggest Aikido, though it is more defensive in nature than Ba-Gua. Good luck I hope this helps!!
Reply:Gun, Foo! Bring a knife! Roll with a crew! RUN! Common sense and a fighting spirit are swords that never dull. If you grew up in the 'hood, these things would come naturally.





It is difficult to find a traditional MA that doesn't require you to defend against 6 people at once for about 1 minute.





BUT, if you're buff enough, self-defense will never be a problem, so....





If you MUST fight, first you must have a good lot of weight training to give you strength beyond normal people. Get your bench press up to 400 and squat too. Curl 210, deadlift thrice your weight. Grip strength enough to crush an apple. Now, people will straight up run away from ya and whoever doesn't, you can pick up and slam on their head. For self-defense, develop a freak low kick with your good leg no matter what MA u'r into. You'd be suprised at the damage an elbow can do, also.
Reply:There are many good Martial Arts to choose from. If you want to be able to take on multiple attackers, pick a striking rather than grappling style. The name of the style doesn't matter, the quality of the school does. Find a good school in your area %26amp; get started.
Reply:In ITF Taekwondo, to move up to black belt 1st dan, you must spar against more than one opponent in the grading. But it would take 4-5 years to get up to that standard, with some serious training. To be honest, this isn't the short term solution you're looking for; ITF TKD would train you to fight more than one opponent if you work hard enough.
Reply:Even if a martial art has a training time dedicated to fighting multiple opponents, it isnt fighting it is sparring. what you face is infinitely worse, and there isnt much you can do to fortify yourself against it. adrenaline will cripple most training anyway. you must rely on knowing what to aim for and what moves will work under stress of adrenaline.





knee kicks are gross motor techniques and work just like running works. they are simple, yet not easy, but simple. if you aim for soft spots like knees, throats or eyes you take away the opponents mobility, breathing, sight. and you can move on or run off.





it is easy to drop a few people through not sparring with martial arts, but attacking vital points on the body.





always fight fast, violently.


keep charging forward to force your attacker to back off and have no power.


the list goes on. I have PM you.
Reply:Multiple attcker scenarios are some of the worst you may have to face as a martial artist and fighter, and I believe there is no definitive answer on how to survive these types of attacks. I agree with what some of the above posts said about real life being much different than in the movies. In the movies, multiple attackers will often attack one at a time. However, as you know this is not how things transpire in the real world. The best thing that you can do is to choose a school that covers realistic situations as best as possible. This may be difficult, but look around your area and see what is available.





Jim M.
Reply:In Tae Kwon Do, we do "Advanced One-Steps" and Forms depicting a confrontation with multiple opponents. We also Circle Spar, and sometimes have 3 or 4-on-1 battles. Gets kinda interesting, especially for Black Belts!
Reply:Try Kajukenbo. It is a strretfighting style that deals with multiple attackers.
Reply:When it comes to multiple attackers, you need to think "strategy", and the best strategy is not to be there. Dont ever go after or pursue a group of guys or thugs or whatever. If your running into situations where they are more than one aggressor you really need to use your head for something other than a punching target. Dont be out alone thinking that your "image" will always get you by. It is difficult enough for a person to devise strategies against one opponent, it takes years of quality training. And dont be suprised when your years of training bring you to the conclusion that it is much better to walk away alive than to walk into something as unpredictable as a street confrontation, There is no substitute for correct information and knowledge, Buy a cell phone, call the cops and get the hell away! Be prepared in advance, think "intelligently" not "egotistically" A proud uncontollable ego will put a person in a serious predicament in the streets, Its a recipe for disaster. If you see people beating someone up, Yell something like "the cops are here!! the cops are coming!! actually call them, and get away.


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