Monday, November 16, 2009

Martial arts?

i'm going to train in martial arts very seriously and how do you think this plan sounds:


get the 3rd belt in tkd(tae kwon do)


get the 3rd belt in bjj(brazilian jiu jutsu)


take kickboxing once or twice a week for cardio purposes


get the 3rd belt in karate


get the 3rd belt in kung fu


and i'm going to try to get a black belt in which ever one i like best while i work on ninjutsu and get to the highest rank there.


do u think it sounds okay and which parts should i correct?

Martial arts?
First ask yourself why you are taking martial arts and give yourself an honest answer!





IF YOUR OBJECTIVE IS TO LEARN HOW TO FIGHT...


(Not my objective so this is a guess!)


Yours sounds like a fairly decent method...


Sample from the buffet of martial arts to see which you like best and in which you have the most natural talent.


Then focus on that ONE!





IF YOUR OBJECTIVE IS TO MASTER YOURSELF...


Any martial art with an under-laying philosophy of internal development will do. I would just pick one and stick with it.





Many kung fu disciplines do not use the belt system.





In kung fu it is not what you can demonstrate on the outside that counts, but how you progress on the INSIDE.





The INTERNAL martial arts take MUCH LONGER to learn than the external martial arts do because:


First you must master YOURSELF!


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Reply:do muay thai instead of tkd
Reply:Well, it depends on your goal. If you're looking at serious competition, frankly, you should focus more narrowly instead of trying to do everything, say by just training in karate and "zhoo-zhitsu" but doing it more often, instead of trying to go to a different dojo every night. There's a phrase, " A jack of all trades is a master of none."








"ninjitsu" schools are often a little dodgy. There are really only a couple of 'legitimate' groups of ninja - the bujinkan and the genbukan, iirc. They don't get along well, either. Any school not affiliated with one of them is probably kind of "fly by night" I know ninjitsu looks super cool and I understand your interest, but you have to ask yourself if your goal is learning to fight or learning something that has the name you saw on TV. I would suggest ninjitsu only for someone with a nostalgic interest in things like swordfighting - if you're learning real ninjitsu, really only the cardio is directly applicable to modern martial arts, since you can't really carry a sword or other ninja weapons for defense or use them in competitions (other then weapons kata competitions)





Also, not all of those arts have the same belt system.





Saw your "additional details" above, and I do want to mention that you shouldn't close your mind to muay thai, 'regular' boxing or judo. Your time would be better spent in a club that teaches any one of those then a cardio kickboxing class (real kickboxing is pretty good cardio anyway, as is BJJ grappling or judo randori)
Reply:I say go for it, if its meant to be then you will be able to accomplish it...its all learning even if you fail.
Reply:You would be a lot better off concentrating on 1 or at most 2 styles %26amp; getting good at them.
Reply:ummmm.... do you have a calendar projection for how long this will take? It can take sometimes years to get a 1st degree black belt, let alone a thrid.





Even then, the belt color is no indication of your overall skills as a fighter. It is merely a sign that you have at least satifactory knowledge- according to the school- of the kattas, styles, or whatever required for the belt.





I myself have gotten easily around the defences of several blackbelts or other higher rankings.





Try doing CAPOEIRA to that list, it is fun and bad a$$. Check out you tube for capoeira videos (sul de bahia or batuque)
Reply:and you are going to achieve what????pick a good stand up style such as freestyle karate and keep it as a base and cross train in muay thai and ground /grappling styles.wher did you get the crap you have in this question?
Reply:If you are going to do ninjutsu, then do it and nothing else, because of the way we train, you will have to unlearn alot of things. We don't just train with swords and other weapons, we have a lot of unarmed techniques. I'd say a majority of my training was without weapons.
Reply:I think it sounds good but don't over load yourself. There really is no need for kickboxing just for cardio you'll get that with the others. Getting to the highest rank in Ninjutsu will take a life time to achieve as most schools have up to dan 15 and have age requirments for each dan.
Reply:kinda sounds like you're overcompensating for something...pick a style or 2 at the most and master those....and just a warning BJJ takes years and years and years to even get a black belt, its a lifelong quest as is some of the other arts you've listed
Reply:I'm not reading that you're going to get third BLACK belt, just the THIRD BELT (often orange, yellow, or green), right?





Dude, what's your hurry? Why not go watch one or two classes in each of those style THEN pick MAYBE two to focus on.





For the record, you'll very often tick off a lot of instructors if your focus is spread too thinly. And you have no focus to speak of with this "plan."
Reply:Sounds like you want to take a system that teaches you everything. You should look into Jeet Kune Do, it teaches you what works and you apply it to real life situations, it is fun.. and there is rankings too. Level 1-13 i believe. 13 being head master. 1 being beginner.
Reply:that is a good plan just start at a slow past and then go fast. you jut don't went to hurt yourself.
Reply:One thing that pops to the forefront is, How are you going to use this combined knowledge? Do you just want to kick butt at a moments notice? You mention getting to "3rd Belt" in differents styles which really will only give you the smallest taste of what a style has to offer. One thing to consider is how you plan to attack or defend. If someone is more of a wrestler type, he/she might fight totally facing forward. Another person might wish to fight in a turned stand or perhaps in a totally side stance, as I found with Okinawate.


Consider both the inner and outer self. If you are a "Brute" outwardly, will you be able to be a calm master inwardly? Does this matter? One thing I thought might be good would be Aikido. Teaches to use the foes energy against themselves. Another thing to consider instructors who are "Purists". Some "Masters" do not want to see their art tainted. Well, one thing for sure, you have alot of workouts ahead. As someone in the health field I warn you to watch out for injuries that are not taken care of properly. Good luck!
Reply:Set your goals high, and abandon all hope of ever achieving them, my teacher tells his students.


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